Food Psych #117: How to Practice Health at Every Size with Deb Burgard
This week we’re talking with Deb Burgard, one of the founders of the Health at Every Size movement. The psychotherapist, author and activist discusses weight stigma in the healthcare system, pursuing joyful movement, size oppression and the exclusion of fat bodies from eating disorder treatment, her discovery of fat activism and feminism, how to find joy and healing, and much more! PLUS, Christy answers a listener question about how to keep yourself nourished in a stressful work situation.
Deb Burgard, PhD, FAED, specializes in body image, eating, sexuality, health, and relationship concerns. She has helped bring into the world the Health at Every Size model, the www.BodyPositive.com website, Great Shape: The First Fitness Guide for Large Women, and numerous book chapters and research articles. An activist and an internationally known speaker trying to change the forces that create oppression and barriers to health, she trains clinicians to integrate social justice concerns into their treatment models. She can be spotted at conferences hula hooping, and dancing in the pool, as her overarching goal is to bring back recess for all. Find her online at BodyPositive.com and on Twitter at @BodyPositivePhD.
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We Discuss:
Deb’s relationship with food growing up, including observing dieting from a young age
Deb’s introduction to fat activism
Limitations on women’s sexuality in the context of feminism
Social justice and the origins of intersectionality
Lived experience vs. theoretical understanding
Identity and oppression of fat bodies
Weight stigma in the feminist community
Size diversity as a biological given
The thin ideal and the pathologization of fat
Fatphobia in the queer and gay community
Deb’s studies in dance and how it opened her up to body acceptance, radical body love, and fat acceptance
Movement, exercise, and fat bodies, including finding weight-neutral spaces for intuitive movement
Deb’s work in intuitive eating
Breaking down the binary with food and movement
Historical and personal trauma from dieting
Giving strength to the intuitive voices rather than the disordered ones
The levels of interpersonal discussion
The shutting down of emotionality in favor of capitalism
Coping with internal pain
The current problem with access to recovery and healthcare services
The history of the Health at Every Size movement
Fatphobia and weight stigma in eating disorder treatment and the healthcare system
Anorexia in larger bodies
Fat oppression and resilience
The lack of individual representation of fat bodies
The joy, healing, and energy found in human connection
Resources Mentioned
Connie Sobczak’s Food Psych Podcast episode
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Listener Question of the Week
How do we make sure we’re eating enough when we have work or life situations that get in the way of nourishing ourselves? What are the best ways to eat consistently in order to stave off bingeing in challenging meal-time circumstances? How do we advocate for ourselves in these kinds of situations?